What we were doing was working on projects that delivered more value to Australia by extracting value out of that titanium supply chain, so thinking about how can we make titanium metal differently so that it’s cheaper, lower cost, easier because titanium, by the way, is a pain to work with. We got our first 3D printer about a year after I joined so I really was able to be there from the beginning of CSIRO getting into 3D printing and then really saw that through and I followed my career through the progression, I feel like, of 3D printing and our experience of 3D printing with titanium specifically, but we moved into other metals and then we got other printers, and it really grew a lot and in a in a lot of ways our experience of 3D printing at CSIRO and mine was that the interest in it grew along with the public interest in it as well so we had this enormous public interest in it. Actually I find sometimes it’s that people think 3D printing means a very specific process as well. So you’ll talk to people and so one of my biggest bugbears actually, is everyone thinks that Polymer 3D printing is FDM or extrusion-based processes. So there’s also that thing that actually I think if we were more descriptive – so I try and I don’t always get it right but I always try to say something like, powder polymer additive manufacturing rather than just polymer AM or whatever it might be, just to get that point across and I feel like if I say it enough, people will start to kind of hear the words and register that there are all these different processes because I think we ended up with… Yeah if as soon as I say the words additive manufacturing or 3D printing, you have this negative impression of something you did that didn’t work because you used the wrong process or in fact, because you were using the same process but 20 years ago, and things have definitely improved since then. I’m not one for saying that we need to be all Team Australia and all of that, but I do think that we have some issues in critical supply chains that were never looked at before, that through the pandemic have been brought to the forefront of everyone’s minds, and investment in those critical supply chains is now occurring a little bit more intelligently? So yes, it’s probably been a good thing. I think we all know that we need to get to a point where we are not using our current qualification frameworks where we can get to a point where we look a lot more like real manufacturing, and a lot less like an experimental technology that we happen to be using for serial production.

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